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 (Jessi) Pippin's Fecal Test
+Jessi: we need to figure out how to help Olivia get Pippin's fecal test. Let's figure this out together
+Olivia: I am sorry we're still talking about this in October. It was difficult to do it initially, then receive the information that it wasn't enough, and difficult to get treatment, and difficult to hear the news that treatment isn't enough. I don't believe in my ability to get that done. I would really like to be--i'm taking a huge leap of faith being here to explain myself vs staying in my room. I would really like for the recipts and empty boxes of treatment to be proof enough. even more than the money, the thought of doing it is-- I don't want to sound flippant but it feels as if i've already done it twice. it's hard to believe the third time will be enough. I know it's an emotional response. i'm really struggling. I said I was going to just do check-ins and go but here I am. that's what i'd like from the community--either recognize that i've met the requirements by alternate route or ... observationally his poops have looked the way they're supposed to. thank you everyone here for not interrupting me. thank you in advance for allowing me to not regret coming to this meeting
+Rowan: even before hearing Pippin had the dewormer I was confused as to why this was necessary. I thought this was over. if it's necessary to comply with the rule for the sake of the rule, I f we have to, is this the thing where you just take the poop to the vet? I'm willing to deliver the poop. I thought we discussed that the dewormer treatment was doing the requirement.
+Jessi:
+David: could you specify on how things were fudged.
+Jessi:
+David: the thing that we're missing from Olivia is
+Jessi: the fecal test. we may be able to do a drop-off
+David: I think we'd be able to support with more of whatever you need, olivia
+Eevee: I agree with what Rowan was saying about why it's necessary. I'd be very happy to help in any way I can.
+Bailey: I do want to say as someone who did do this, it really isn't so easy as going to the vet and dropping poop off. I had to get an exception for this because I had just done it the month before and they made an exception for me. I think everyone needs to understand it's not so easy. it takes a lot more coordination if it's outside of an annual test. we need to have everyone at the same standard, so either Olivia needs to get the test done or we need to revisit the policy
+Rowan: I want to hear more about why it's necessary at a medical standpoint vs a policy standpoint. i'd like to propose to accept treatment.... I'd like to propose to change the policy
+Rowan: extension of 2 minutes
+Rowan: i'd like to hear from Jessi
+Bailey: I did it because it became a policy. I think there was an individual that became scared and created a policy in response to them being scared.
+Olivia: I am not confused about the policy. the policy is the same when I signed my contract. i'm not planning on this being an issue when next June comes around. I'm hoping Tyson finds a more suitable place to live before then. from the house perspective, i'm the one who matters because that's where Pippin sleeps. I don't know I needed to ask for it, but hopefully he'll be living somewhere better sometime next June. I'm not looking for a policy change--i think it's a fine policy, but making the calls/appointments, I can't tell you that it's something that you normally do. I already did it--it's not my fault that the vet didn't do it. now I know for next time. I didn't know it wasn't included. I'm not looking for the policy change. I am not put together enough to pick up the phone. that's not me making a prediction about next year.
+Jessi:
+Mae: I wanted to say that I think in the beginning, you said you're sorry about the agenda. I wanted to thank you for showing up I know it's hard. I know overwhelm is hard to deal with. it's a real un-empowered place to feel when you're overwhelmed. thank you for showing up and we're going to make this as easy as possible.
+Eevee: from my understanding of worms, couldn't we collect our own sample and see if there's worms in it?
+Olivia: visual exam by the naked eye only shows if there's adults. the microscope is necessary to detect microscopic ones. I don't think we have one, and if we did, none of us are vets.
+Owen: to reinforce, there's eggs and smaller versions. it takes labwork to find them. to my understanding there was an incident a while ago and that initiated a rule because it was an issue.
+vote to extend PASS
+Bailey: it really isn't that easy the people who have fulfilled the policy have experienced it not being so easy. if this is what we're expecting of people, we need to be more flexible, for new people coming in, we can accept their last test. i've been bothered by it and I don't think owen's characterization
+Eevee: I understand that there may be
+Olivia: i'm fine with us having a working group to discuss the merits of the policy. i'm not asking for a policy change on my behalf. someone could say that i've had a lot of grace time since it's now October. subjectively it doesn't feel that way to me since I'm having a hard time leaving my room. i'm not looking to change policy i'd like to follow policy. i'm fully planning on doing it correctly next time. I'm not really sure if i'm stating or asking but I can't pick up the phone. I tried. I tried and I failed and i'll try again in June but i'm so tired. i'm just not...if someone wants to take him, that's awesome but taking him the first time was important because I needed to do right by Pippin and getting treatment is important because I want to do right by Pippin. I want to see him have...I can't do it. I already tried twice. I really don't want the community to change the way that it does things because that's correct. I wasn't curious enough--i just assumed they'd get everything. I don't want policy change. I just want it to go away I already tried. thank you everyone for letting me get this out and especially for letting me tell the parts that are important. I'm aware of what the rules are and agree with them as they're written.
+===== Agenda Item 2 =====
+(Jessi) Mae and David's Accommodations
+Jessi: I motion that we end David's accommodations of a reduced labor schedule and put David back on a full labor schedule starting the week of Oct 20, 2025.
+David: Second
+-0-1 MOTION PASSES
+Jessi: what are you on right now?
+Mae: Grounds, mail, bulk
+Jessi: you're on 3 lumps is that still working for you?
+Mae: I can't figure it out until the 31st. I think I can pick up the bulk labor again, but past that, I should know more after the scan on the 31st, but then get the results. that'll determine the kind of treatment i need. it just really hurts and i feel badly that everyone else is impacted, but i'm good for bulk labor.
+Jessi: I motion that we continue Mae's reduction in lumps at 3 lumps per week until November 9th, 2025. Mae's labor will be Bulk Prep, Grounds Coordinator, and Mail.
+David: Second
+Olivia: i'm happy to support this motion. i'm also happy to support a longer one. I'm happy to allow the community to have some time to revisit the measure. I have no opposition to the motion as written
+Rowan: I also suggest longer so we don't have to say we'll discuss it again. if something changes sooner than we say, we can always change it. I don't think mae's gonna take advantage of this
+Jessi: I motion that we continue Mae's reduction in lumps at 3 lumps per week until November 30th, 2025. Mae's labor will be Bulk Prep, Grounds Coordinator, and Mail.
+David: Second
+-0-1 MOTION PASSES
+===== Agenda Item 3 =====
+(Jessi) Fay's Membership Review for Non-Performance of Labor
+Jessi: We need to discuss scheduling Fay's Membership Review. I motion scheduling it for Monday October 27th, 2025 at 8 PM.
+Olivia: Second
+-0-1 MOTION PASSES
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 ====== New business ======
+Olivia: this is partially adjacent. i'm taking a staycation the weekend of Halloween. I know our neighborhood isn't really structured correctly for Halloween. my schedule is posted on my door and if anyone wants to talk to me about the things we've been talking about tonight--or about things that are more fun...
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+Owen: pulling Fay up for an Officer Review as CHEA Rep on the grounds that she's not here and not properly representing us. I believe procedurely that it requires 2-3 sponsors. what do I need to motion?
+Rowan: I don't think it feels necessary. I don't think she wants to remain CHEA Rep. we could just contact her
+Owen: please do that
+Olivia: what about abandonment? IDK if that's helpful or applicable here
+Owen: it's just to call an officer review for Fay CHEA Rep. we could just plan it for the date of the membership review
+//
+Bailey: in fun news, let Vic and I know about Fall Ball in November. we usually throw Fall Ball the week before Thanksgiving because that tends to be the best time for people. any other helping hands are so welcome.