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--- meetings:2025-09-28 [2025/09/29 00:02] – Created from the form at meetings jessimunn
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 ===== House Members Attendance: =====
-Alex, Alice, Bailey M (Spade), Bailey W (Star), Carina, CJ, Cheng, David, Ella, Fay, Jessi, Kaycie, Mae, Matthias, Olivia, Rowan, Ruth, Sidney,
+Carina, Owen, Jessi, Mae, Rowan, Ruth
 ===== Associate Members Attending: =====
-Lauren, McAllen
+Caleb, Kaycie
 ===== Non-Regular Attendees: =====
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 ===== Prospective Members: =====
-**First Meeting Question:**
+**First Meeting**
-  - Full Legal Name
-  - Pronouns
+   - Max Jentoft Stallings Tollefsen
-  - Why do you want to live at SASONA?
+  - He/Him
-  - When would you want to move in?
+  - Community!!! Being around people. Working together. Life skills.
-**Second Meeting**
+  - Late October - mid November
-  - Are you willing to do 5 to 6 Lumps (hrs) of Labor a week?
+  - No pets
-  - Are you willing to attend a minimum of 2 house meetings per month and 2 labor holidays (4 lumps each)?
+  - Taylor Ross Morino
+  - He/Him
+  - I like the idea but I don't wanna live here. Community!
+  - No thanks
+  - Dog and a cat
 ====== Officer Check-ins ======
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 **CHEA Rep 1:** \\
 **CHEA Rep 2:** \\
-**Culture Coordinator:** \\
+**Culture Coordinator:** I did some culture meeting review. Identifying emotions around labor accountability. Braintstorming labor stuff. (Kaycie's frined reccomends the book Crucial Conversations.)\\
-**Food Planner:** \\
+**Food Planner: **Nothing to report.\\
-**Grounds Coordinator:** \\
+**Grounds Coordinator: **Guy from green corn project: "Co-ops are not our usual clientel. Usually very low income people." I asked him to meet the new grounds coordinator. "I continued working with you because of our personal relationship, but I probably won't be able to continue with this support." It's okay, it won't make a big difference in our finances, just nice to have freebies. Also working on labor holiday.\\
-**Kitchen Kaiser:** \\
+**Kitchen Kaiser: **Email report\\
-**Labor Czar:** \\
+**Labor Czar: **Please do minutes taker and do cook! I'll sign up random people for the reamingin labor rotation. I'm gonna count the ballots tonight. New schedule. Accept nominations!\\
-**Maintenance Coordinator: ** \\
+**Maintenance Coordinator: **Tracking mold. Getting bids for kitchen remodel. Talking to NASCO and CHEA. Contacting grease track contractor. They will not charge us.\\
 **Mastodon Overblower: ** \\
 **Meeting Chair: ** \\
 **Membership Coordinator: ** \\
 **Minutes Taker: ** \\
-**Steward: ** \\
+**Steward: **Continueing community agreements emails. Discussed accomodations. Let's chat with officers about labor holiday. Add me to labor holiday related documents. We don't have a labor holiday date yet, I'll put it on the agenda for next week.\\
 **Treasurer: ** \\
 **NP Rep: ** \\
 **Operations Manager: **
 ====== Wiki Updates & Announcements ======
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+===== Agenda Item 1 =====
+(Jessi) Jessi + David October 2025 Payment Plan
+Jessi: I motion to propose David and I are allowed to make our October rent following this payment plan:\\
+\\
+$350 October 1\\
+$450 October 10\\
+$450 October 17\\
+\\
+Totaling $1,250
+===== Agenda Item 2 =====
+(Rowan) Labor accomodations
+Rowan: David and Mae need accomodations as a reduction in lumps.
+Jessi: David is seeking a hopefully temporary reduction in labor lumps due to health issues. He would just do meeting chair.
+Ruth: We've only done this once before I think we shouldn't do it on a person by person basis. We really need a consistent way of deciding who should get a reduction in lumps, how many, how long. Let's decide how we're granting them and how we should grant them in the future.
+Mae: It's a tricky subject and something I've feared since I've moved in here. The physical things are hard for me. I can do mail, cooking, and split grounds with Owen, which totals to 4 lumps.
+Rowan: You shouldn't feel like you have to leave our community because you can't do labor.
+Mae: I apprecaite that very much, but labor keeps our community running. I'm trying to be accountability and understand when I can't do something, somebody else has to do it.
+Kaycie: What's coming to mind is where we can reduce labor lumps. Do your own dish day? One less cook shift?
+Jessi: When we discussed this with Seb, we discussed what can you do? Can you do things that aren't in the boxes of our current labor system?
+Rowan: Archivist? Less lumps is a longer term solution. I've been thinking about that a lot in general not just accomodations. Let's do reduction of lumps as a last resort, only if no other labor is possible.
+Owen: Coming up with something procedural instead of one-off: Have the person request (x) lumps labor reduction. State concrete reasons, travel or medical. Discuss with labor tzar the deficit. Part of that conversation is: will 4 people chip in 1 more lump to make that accomodation?
+Rowan: To clarify, our accomodations sytem is for physical or mental disabillities, not for travel or any other reason.
+Ruth: This is only for disabilities. We can't make it entirely make it about whether people are willing to pick up the labor. We need to follow fair housing and cannot discriminate against people with disabilities, so I don't think Owen's plan answers this quesiton. I could be in favor of a temporary (2-3 weeks) voting on accomodations, but we really need to have a more in depth conversation for how to make these decisions in the future. What I was thinking is these are the situations where the house would consider a request for reduction in labor.
+Jessi: I agree with what Ruth is saying. I don't wanna put it on the person to come up with the solution. When I was labor tzar, the previous labor tzar told me we really really do not want to do a reduction of lumps. When Mae needed accomodations in the past, I made a schedule for Mae with 5 lumps and made a separate schedule where people could sign up to complete her lumps.
+Mae: I wanted to go further with Kaycie's thought of reducing a night of cook.
+Ruth: I'm interested in the future in talking about changes in the labor system. Let's not intertwine it with this discussion. We shouldn't change the labor system whenever people need accomodations.
+Mae: That makes sense to me. It could be two things happening simultaneously but they're not related.
+Ruth: Let's not associate that with people.
+Jessi: If we're gong to historically look at the minutes and see that these were the same discussion...
+Rowan: I don't think taking one lump from Mae's grounds will make a large impact, but David no longer on cook will cause a deficit.
+Jessi: Let's have Mae and Rowan discuss a special project lump.
+Kaycie: You'll be taking credit for the work you're already doing.
+Mae: As long as I can not be hurting myself with labor. I want a retreat from physical labor. Cooking is physical labor, but being able to cook on my time helps a lot.
+Kaycie: Healing your body is so much more important than some labor happening. I have a conception that even cooking is a stretch. Can we not put that one there? Can we just do 2 lumps like for Seb? This is important, more important than labor.
+Mae: There are a couple of areas that always need cleaning. One is the laundry room. I don't know if I can do that but let's make it a lump for somebody. Sasona's been there for me, but I'm getting into a point of my life where I'm trying to just look out for myself, not myself and Sasona. Extreme example would be if I could no longer get up, I would need to move into an assisted living facility, but this isn't so clear cut, I'm somewhere in between. This is a community for those who can do labor 5-6 hours a week. I find labor takes up almost all my time. I don't know how people do this with a job.
+Rowan: Can you clarify if cooking is a detremit to your healing?
+Mae: It's a push. It depends on what I have going on in the rest of the day. I can continue to clean countertops.
+Rowan: I think we should get rid of Mae's cook lump.
+Jessi: I suggest Rowan and I communicate with those needing accomdations for the next week.
+Mae: I'm not asking for temporary, I'm asking for permanent. The main structure of a co-op is labor. I wish it were a place that you can just stay and contribute in whatever way you can. I don't want to burden the house.
+Jessi: Motion: Mae gets a reduction of 1 lumps until 10/12.
+Ruth: Can we give a reason? Clarify we're going to put a system in place in two weeks?
+Kaycie: Can we make it a 3 lump reduction so Mae doesn't need to cook?
+Mae: I have my loyal friends rooting for me to do no labor. I recognize that this doesn't really work with the house structure.
+Ruth: I'm thinking we can we can call what Mae's doing bulk prep.
+Kaycie: I feel like Mae really needs a break right now.
+Mae: It would be great. Mail and admin stuff isn't a problem. If I'm doing bulk prep, how would I know what to make?
+Ruth: You can ask the cooks, or you can do whatever you want for bulk prep.
+Jessi: **Motion: Mae will have a reduction of 1-2 lumps until Sunday, 10/12. Mae will do 1 lump bulk prep, 1 lump mail, 1-2 lump grounds coordinator (based on whether the election has been completed.) **
+Caleb seconds.
+**8-0-0 Motion passes.**
+Jessi: **Motion: David will have a reduction of 3 lumps until Sunday, 10/12. David will do 2 lumps meeting chair. **
+Rowan seconds.
+**8-0-1 Motion passes. **
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+Caleb seconds.
+-0-2 Motion passes.
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